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Tuesday, June 30, 2009

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Alastair

I'm confused that you're bringing Ancient Egypt into this. I thought that the statue represents The Statue of Liberty and that its decay represents a creeping isolationist stance, followed by an individualist and unilateral approach to foreign policy.

Alastair

Also ... the statue, if I'm not mistaken, is a of a fertility deity. Could this be analogous to an attempt, on the part of the US, to 'impregnate' the rest of the world with its ideals? I see a parallel between a unilateral stance on foreign policy and a kind of 'penetration' at the level of ideas.

Holly

Interesting that we would finally come back to the idea of rising and falling empires which we looked at during the very first season of Lost. We looked at the author Chalmers Johnson who has written a trilogy about US interventionism and he references similarities with the Roman and British Empires. I read the first 2 books but the third sounds best...
http://www.democracynow.org/2007/2/27/chalmers_johnson_nemesis_the_last_days

Michel

Great article, I find it very clever when you talk match the different outer civilizations that made touch with some of the biggest (if not THE biggest) empires that had great power in the world. The statue is STILL an ancient remnant of egyptian culture. An ABC recap said the statue was of the fertility goddess Taweret, but Taweret most of the time (if not all) was represented with the body of a pregnant woman, and a hippo head. The statue we saw had most definetely a crocodile head, which indicates the staute was of the crocodile-headed egyptian god, Sobek. And, thematically, Sobek makes much more sense... As Taweret, he carries ankhs, of course, which were fertility symbols. But look what Sobek's Wikipedia page says:

"The god Sobek, which was depicted as a crocodile or a man with the head of a crocodile was a powerful and frightening deity; in some Egyptian creation myths, it was Sobek who first came out of the waters of chaos to create the world. (...) Sobek's ambiguous nature led some Egyptians to believe that he was a repairer of evil that had been done, rather than a force for good in itself (...) He was also said to call on suitable gods and goddesses required for protecting people in situation, effectively having a more distant role, nudging things along, rather than taking an active part. (...) He was also shown with an ankh, representing his ability to undo evil and so cure ills."

Doesn't that sound like... uh, Jacob?

Michel

As always, I only disagree on my usual complaints. I still have a hard time seeing Jacob as representing an outright interventionist stance, although I do like his Nemesis being foreign policy realism.

My main concern keeps being Alpert, representing Cheney. And other stuff. If we are right abuot our most popular theories, then the guy that took Locke's image (the Nemesis) also took on Christian Shephard's appearance. Wouldn't that mean that George Bush Sr. became a poster face for anti-interventionist action? But that wouldn't be even far from accurate, right? Not to mention that, by the end of the episode, Neocons KILL the Interventionist position... and that isn't really right, is it?

Other stuff is dead on, like Sawyer representing the GOP losing its priviledged position in Congress and the country. And who is calling "his" shots? Well Juliet, the Conservatives, who were truly the leadership of the Republican Party.

Interestingly enough, she and Michael had similar fates.I deem them both as counter-parts... people willing to double-cross sides and do whatever in their power to leave the Island and reunite with their loved ones. They also seem to represent the temporary but main leadership of two different parties, the Liberals (Michael) and the Conservatives (Juliet). And how did they both die on Lost? They were blown off by manipulating and stading right next to massive explosive forces. Michael died trying to prevent the C4 in the ship from exploding... and Juliet died trying to explode (and succeeding) a nuclear bomb that lied next to her. ... TOO coincidental? Yes, especially when they both have one scene together in the Mobisodes, where the only things they talk about is their similarities and differences.

That is a very clear confirmation that now, both Sawyer and Walt (the GOP and the Dems) are leaderless. And it's a great confirmation of your theory.

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